Some healing questions and discussion

[Gorrack]

its a passive ablility called spirit affinity or somethint to that effect.

you get 8-10% of anyhealing healed in mana. i think it is 8.


so if you get HOTs ticking for 200 a tick you are going to get roughly 18 or so mana everytime that Hot Ticks.

if you get a direct heal you get 8% of what was actually healed so if you get hit for a 3k heal, and only 1500 of it sticks you get 8% of 1500

[Sol]

Let's see...

Cleansing:

Paladin: Poison, Disease, Magic (all in one spell)
Druid: Poison, Curse (abolish poison is nice!)
Shaman: Poison, Disease (including totems for the same, very nice spells)
Mage: Curse (I think I'm missing some here)
Priest: Disease (I think I'm missing some here)
Felpuppy: Magic

Priest has cure disease, abolish disease (pulses to remove stacked diseases for x seconds)
Priest has dispel magic and mass dispel. Mass dispel is a slower castable targeted AOE that will remove 1 buff from enemies and a magic debuff from friends. Mass dispel is more powerful than regular dispel. it will remove some buffs like Ice block or Pally bubbles that single target dispel cannot touch.

[Aessina]

Oh! Speaking of Paladins!

Daeron has mentioned quite a few times about really liking Druid healers because of the mana regen he gets from them. As I understood it, it's linked to each heal, making HoTs bordering on a hack (as if Paladins weren't hacked enough! :D) but I thought someone mentioned it being linked to overheals instead.

How does that actually work, Paladins?

Spiritual Attunement is a passive paladin ability that gives you 10% of your actual healing received as mana as well.

That is, someone puts a 5k heal on you, but you're only hurt for 2k, you'll get 200 mana.

HoT is just a nice steady stream that makes it a little easier to manage our abilities instead of getting mana back in big chunks.

[Myrcaus]

[FONT=Tahoma]Well, when someone has +mana regen on their gear (mine's 334 without any sort of buffing) it does occur once those 5 seconds are up, as I understand it.

Clarifying this:

Mana/5 from gear, buffs, or effects happens continually, whether you're casting or not.

Mana regen from Spirit only occurs when you are not casting, beginning 5 seconds after the last cast you performed (cast bar leaves the screen).

Effects that allow mana regen to continue at some effectiveness while casting modify only the mana regen from Spirit.

[Moozipan]

There are benefits to letting Lifebloom "bloom" - it counts as the target healing themselves, so it's extra agro for the tank.

I don't know of any instance that it can "break" from the target taking damage - but it can be dispelled.

Here's an interesting discussion I found about Lifebloom:

[Potpie]

Mana per Five Seconds article, good stuff!

http://www.wowwiki.com/Formulas:Mana_Regen

"Spell casting never stops direct mana regeneration effects from items, nor does it reset your mana regen timing"

Spirit-based mana regeneration is subject to the Five Second Rule.

Gear like "Equip: Restores 7 mana per 5 sec." is NOT subject to the Five Second Rule.

That's pretty cool, I did not know that.

Example:
Potpie casts a chain lightning, 1.5 second cast. The moment he begins casting that spell, his mana regen stops completely.

After the 1.5 second cast time, his Direct Mana Regen from gear starts up again immediately.

5 seconds after the CL spell completed, his Spirit-based Mana Regen starts up again.
Thus Spirit-based Mana Regen is effectively shut off for 6.5 seconds total.

Does that sound right?

Edit:
Not right, corrected Spirit-based

Edit again:
Argh, it looks like Spirit-based Mana Regen works THRU the 1.5 second cast time, but is halted immediately for 5 seconds when the spell finishes casting.

[Myrcaus]

Felpuppy: Magic

For clarity: this is a warlock with a Felhunter pet.

The Felhunter's Devour Magic ability works the same way as a priest's Dispel Magic; it will remove beneficial magical effects from enemies or harmful magical effects from friendly targets.

For each effect so devoured, the Felhunter heals himself for 915 damage (highest rank).

The ability has an 8 second cooldown, and so cannot be spammed like Dispel. (Trivia: The Doomguard pet has a Dispel magic ability with no cooldown, along with its Cripple debuff, War Stomp, and Rain of Fire abilities).

[Aessina]

Mana per Five Seconds article, good stuff!

http://www.wowwiki.com/Formulas:Mana_Regen

"Spell casting never stops direct mana regeneration effects from items, nor does it reset your mana regen timing"

Spirit-based mana regeneration is subject to the Five Second Rule.

Gear like "Equip: Restores 7 mana per 5 sec." is NOT subject to the Five Second Rule.

That's pretty cool, I did not know that.

Example:
Potpie casts a chain lightning, 1.5 second cast. The moment he begins casting that spell, his mana regen stops completely.

After the 1.5 second cast time, his Direct Mana Regen from gear starts up again.

Five seconds after he started casting CL, his Spirit-based Mana Regen starts up again.

Does that sound right?

Almost. Remove the following line:

After the 1.5 second cast time, his Direct Mana Regen from gear starts up again.

+mana/5 never stops (unless you're dead)

[Myrkris]

There are benefits to letting Lifebloom "bloom" - it counts as the target healing themselves, so it's extra agro for the tank.

I don't know of any instance that it can "break" from the target taking damage - but it can be dispelled.

Here's an interesting discussion I found about Lifebloom:

Earthshield and Healing Stream Totem healing also count as being done by the character themself, so they get the aggro from both. Not sure how most HoTs work since I can' t cast any others, though. Does their healing count as coming from the caster, or the target? The thread you link makes it look like only the final portion of the Lifebloom heal counts as "self-healing", which would suggest that normally HoTs add to caster aggro, but that's just my interpretation of a pretty limited data set.

[Aessina]

As the recipient of many a HoT, I think I can clarify that Myrk :)

Regular HoT ticks are attributed to the caster. So when they scroll by on SCT, they will show me who cast them. Bloom part of Lifebloom, Earthshield, Healthboogers, etc... will not.