AV join as group

[Melfena]

With http://wow.curse-gaming.com/en/files/details/4563/stinkyqueue/

This mod queues everyone running it at the same time, enabling a workaround for the forced pug that AV is, and the pain that follows.

[Shizma]

WOOT! If this works, I have been SO wanting to take our group into AV as a set group. I think we would rock!

[Potpie]

Holy shicrap - let's TRY THIS!!!

*Installed*

[Potpie]

Mirrored


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[Rehab]

dont forget to bypass the marshalls and just kill vann by himself, saves a ton of time = more honor gain per hour

[Melfena]

Want to crush the hopes and dreams of the Alliance? Beat them in AV in 5 minutes.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Mfwq-Yz05So
Stupid music, but very impressive

[Potpie]

Want to crush the hopes and dreams of the Alliance? Beat them in AV in 5 minutes.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Mfwq-Yz05So
Stupid music, but very impressive

Wow!!

I can't help but wonder though -- how would a Blizzard dev feel to see all of his hard work in AV content trivialized in such a way? ;)

[Shizma]

Wow!!

I can't help but wonder though -- how would a Blizzard dev feel to see all of his hard work in AV content trivialized in such a way? ;)

Hehehe...

"Now that the Before the Storm release has been live for about a week, we have noticed that there is too much honor being gained too easily in AV. We have decided, so as not to trivialize the value of the honor gained and its benefit to rewards, to eliminate bonus honor for killing NPC's. There will no longer be a bonus award for killing Bel, or any of the other NPC's. Bwahahahahaha..."

[Sol]

anyone know how much honor you get for winning an AV?

[Shizma]

Before 2.0, the honor was equivalent. But there is a lot more bonus honor because of the NPC's. Each NPC killed gives an honor bonus also. Unless it got nerfed.

[Sol]

anyone tested this? how does it work? I read the readme.txt but it was still sketchy to me how you use this.

[Despicable]

I have it installed but haven't really tried it yet. The only thing I have noticed is the chat spam that gives you the number of the AV instance. Not sure if that is driven by the leader or whomever gets in first. I assume it is a new instance but I have no clue how it would know that.

The readme is a bit thin.


anyone tested this? how does it work? I read the readme.txt but it was still sketchy to me how you use this.

[Sol]

If we could somehow master AV as a group. It would be a nice way to get some more variety in my PVP diet and a few AV honor tokens.

19k honor and climbing.

we were getting 800 honor an hour in WSG with a couple AB's mixed in. We should be able to bump that up to 1000 with some more practice.

[Myrkris]

If we could somehow master AV as a group. It would be a nice way to get some more variety in my PVP diet and a few AV honor tokens.

19k honor and climbing.

we were getting 800 honor an hour in WSG with a couple AB's mixed in. We should be able to bump that up to 1000 with some more practice.

More AB and AV! WSG = stinky poo... :(

[Shizma]

Wow!!

I can't help but wonder though -- how would a Blizzard dev feel to see all of his hard work in AV content trivialized in such a way? ;)

Trivial

[Shizma]

Bump.

Don't lose this. The addon works great. Able to take in a large raid if wanted.

[Byomage]

Have you guys actually tried this one? Does it really work?

[Shizma]

It has been tried, and it works very well.We've been taking as many as ten into AV at a time. Would LOVE to try a larger group!

edit applied*** and by the way.

WE RULE when we run as a group!

[Mudsloth]

Yes it does work. Works really well.

To answer a question Sol posted earlier about how much honor. It all depends on how many graveyard, towers you have capped (and kept from getting capped) as well as taking the mines. You also get 14 honor per Lt and commander killed as well as some bonus honor at the end of the round. I believe i read the difference between a win and a loss is about 100 honor.

Over the weekend we were blazing through rounds and thwak said we were in the range of 900 honor per hour.

WSG is good too if you go in as a made. I still think it's flawed in that if you lose and don't cap at all you get nothing other than honor from kills.

[Potpie]

This looks like the latest version (albeit beta) - it has a GUI.

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[Thwak]

Over the weekend we were blazing through rounds and thwak said we were in the range of 900 honor per hour.

WSG is good too if you go in as a made. I still think it's flawed in that if you lose and don't cap at all you get nothing other than honor from kills.

Yeah AV was reporting on average that we were getting 990 honor per hour. This is with it being an AV holiday weekend however which gave you 112 after every match, win or lose, even if you just got there at the end. So... probably closer to 700 per hour normally.

When rolling teams in WSG i've had my meter report 1250 honor per hour however as Mud mentioned the potential to get nothing for your time really sucks about WSG. Not worth queing as a group without a dedicated healer and dispeller (who aren't the same person) in my opinion.

AB hovers around 800 per hour. I will be interested what the number look like on AB and WSG holidays. I believe this weekend is WSG?

GG's last night in AV. Wish I had gotten in earlier.

[Mudsloth]

I believe you are correct, which means I will probably just stay away from wsg, or do they add teh 112 after every match in wsg as well? In which case I can just sit in the stupid gy and get ganked over and over.

[Warcaster]

I still need 13 WSG marks for my War Kodo. WSG PUGs here I come! /cry

[Thwak]

the bonus honor is wsg will be like it is in ab i would guess and work off the honor you would normally gain. so rather than 40 per cap you would get 60 or something... 0 would still be zero though.

with a solid team, heals, dispell, runners, we can make bank in wsg this weekend. all the made teams will be there though so we will need a solid team for it to be more profitable than ab/av.

[wooti]

I love premade AV's! As far as WSG i think the honor could be great if we get cooridinated and have good class balance. I need WSG marks bad on my shaman but i dont have an epic mount (although i can flag run with 15% wolf speed!) I also enjoy WSG alot on my priest (i need a hunter to protect me from rogues and warriors :P)

[Shizma]

The bad thing about WSG is doinks. If the premade has flag-capture duty, it's no big deal, but if the doink gets the flag, he'll hide someplace on the map and farm HK's, and prolong the game. And because WSG is a small-numbers game, each player is important to the team makeup. If 1-2 go AFK, you're done.

If we could get a full premade, I'd be up for WSG,

[Sol]

GG's last night in AV!

we need to figure out how to get queued as a group more reliably. That last round only about half of us made it in and the enemy had a tier 3 group go and ninja our FW shiz... :) Made for a 60 minute game or so, and a loss.

we did win 4-5 before that which was sweet. Its so nice to show the horde in our battlegroup how to win. I almost said "easy wins" but They weren't really that easy. We only had success because we were working hard and working together.

So whats the best technique to get us all queued together using stinkyqueue?

Here is my take:
When the Raid leader does a readycheck, everyone pull up the list of AV's. I will then quickly do a queue as group after everyone reports in. This gets us a fresh AV and hopefully into the same one, instead of losing 5-10 people.

If anyone has more intimate knowlege of how queues work. let us know. i have a feeling we need to synchronize a bit better and we'll get more people in each time.

[Potpie]

Yah I think that's all it will take Sol. Everyone having SQ addon installed, and doing as you describe.

[Mudsloth]

I think the key is to ensure that you don't actually pull up the AV list. You just open up the first window by talking to the battlemaster, not actually the list.

However on that last queue I didn't get queued at all and I"m not sure what was causing that. I upgrade Cyb and I to Stinkyqueue 2 to see if that helps. The problem could be that it is beta...

[Potpie]

There are no Blue posts about this yet that I can tell - good sign, IMO. ;)

Did a few searches at blue.cardplace.com

[Shizma]

Appears to be a goodly amount of bellyaching by the alliance in the general message boards at WoW though. Gonna have to see what transpires.

If it's good for the Horde, you know it will get nuked.

[Maelc]

Yea, the alliance would not want to do something smart like form their own premades. That would be too hard.

I for one love AV. I really get to use my hunter as I envision him. A sniper! I loved sitting above the SP GY and shooting allliance while we were assaulting the flag. I also loved shooting down snipers when they did the same thing to us. Also there are tons of choke points for trap setting. I spent one AV on D with Melf and had great fun mowing down Alliance pushers at the gate.

AB is still fun and I also need some WSG marks for an epic mount someday but for now AV is da bomb! (Quick, run to the spot!) :flame:

[Beagle]

Yea, the alliance would not want to do something smart like form their own premades. That would be too hard.

I for one love AV. I really get to use my hunter as I envision him. A sniper! I loved sitting above the SP GY and shooting allliance while we were assaulting the flag. I also loved shooting down snipers when they did the same thing to us. Also there are tons of choke points for trap setting. I spent one AV on D with Melf and had great fun mowing down Alliance pushers at the gate.

AB is still fun and I also need some WSG marks for an epic mount someday but for now AV is da bomb! (Quick, run to the spot!) :flame:

Damn maelc you make me want to roll a hunter!
-be

[Shizma]

I'm on a mission with Shiz to get a blade, but after that, my real PvP beast will be Karj. At 55 he already crits with his shadow-bolt comfortably over a thousand, and his soul fire crits get pretty close to 1300. He fits the sniper role real well, likes to watch alliance pop their heads up. They promptly get a CoA, Corruption, Deathcoil, shadow-bolt, all the while my little imp popping them for 90-120 every 3/4 second (improved imp/improved firebolt), finishing with life-drain or shadow-burn if it's up. Lots of fun. My favorite though is mana-sucking the pally's dry and watching them cry when they can't bubble :AR15firin . At sixty that ca'ts gonna rock!

HIM I enjoy the bejeebus out of in PvP :)

[Despicable]

Do it! Rogue and hunter leveling is very comparable in terms of speed.


Damn maelc you make me want to roll a hunter!
-be

[Beagle]

Do it! Rogue and hunter leveling is very comparable in terms of speed.
omg if lvling a hunter is anywhere near as fun as rogue then I just might have to ror!
-be

[Maelc]

Not to mention there are some very good hunters in HLC you can learn from. I know I did.